Smartphones in Thailand- V.3.0

This recent article in the L.A. Times confirms what was written in the original post.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-unlocked-iphones-20110705,0,903769.story

The relevant quote from the article is:

Officially unlocked iPhones work on what Apple called “the supported GSM wireless carrier of your choice” — referring to Global System for Mobile Communications, the network standard used by AT&T, T-Mobile, some regional carriers in the United States and many overseas.

However, because T-Mobile’s 3G frequencies are different from AT&T’s, users who want to run unlocked iPhones on T-Mobile’s network are limited to the slower Edge standard, on which the first iPhones released in 2007 operated.

It’s my phone and I should be able to use it wherever I want,” Wadhwa said. “Why should AT&T have a monopoly when I go abroad?”

While he’s a devoted Apple user, he won’t hesitate to switch to an Android phone if using an unlocked iPhone becomes too difficult in the future.

 

“They are a close second” to the iPhone, Wadhwa said. “There are so many options now. And they [Android phones] will work anywhere in the world.”

Despite all the smoke and mirrors from the Self Proclaimed IT Expat Experts in this post’s comments, the fact remains that Iphones can’t get 3G in Thailand because they receives on the wrong frequencies.

BigBabyKenny

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The benefits and limitations of unlocked iPhones

By John Boudreau

July 5, 2011

Reporting from San Jose

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Vivek Wadhwa recently used his iPhone while traveling in India.

“I only checked emails a few times, made several calls,” Wadhwa, a visiting scholar at UC Berkeley, recalled of the 12-day trip.

When he returned home, he received a shock: an AT&T phone bill with international roaming charges for $800.

“I was so outraged,” the Menlo Park, Calif., resident said. “So for the next trip, I hacked my iPhone — unlocked it — and just plugged in my local [Indian] SIM card.”

The charges for the Indian SIM, for voice and data, cost him as little as $2 per trip.

Now international travelers — and those who want to be able to use their iPhone domestically on T-Mobile’s cheaper but slower network — don’t have to tweak their devices. Apple Inc. is now selling unlocked iPhone 4s that are untethered to carrier contracts in the United States.

Although they are much more expensive than iPhones subsidized by AT&T or Verizon — a 16-gigabyte iPhone with a contract costs $199, whereas an unlocked version goes for $649 — the unlocked iPhones can save regular international travelers a lot of money. And they owners don’t have to play the cat-and-mouse game with Apple, which used software updates to negate unauthorized iPhone unlocks.

Officially unlocked iPhones work on what Apple called “the supported GSM wireless carrier of your choice” — referring to Global System for Mobile Communications, the network standard used by AT&T, T-Mobile, some regional carriers in the United States and many overseas.

“If you don’t want a multiyear service contract or if you prefer to use a local carrier when traveling abroad, the unlocked iPhone 4 is the best choice,” Apple says on its website.

However, because T-Mobile’s 3G frequencies are different from AT&T’s, users who want to run unlocked iPhones on T-Mobile’s network are limited to the slower Edge standard, on which the first iPhones released in 2007 operated.

Apple’s decision to sell unlocked iPhones could signal that it hopes to take another bite into rival Research In Motion Ltd.’s BlackBerry dominance in the business world. In its most recent quarterly earnings call with analysts, Apple said the iPhone was deployed or being tested by nearly 90% of Fortune 500 companies.

“If Apple decided to do this, you have to think there was a significant amount of requests that make it worth their while to do it,” said Tim Bajarin, president of Creative Strategies, who travels regularly to Asia. He spent $160 on AT&T voice and data roaming charges during a recent three-day trip to Taipei. “For international travelers, this is a real blessing.”

Richard Doherty with the Envisioneering Group called it “another hit and run against RIM,” which has lost market share in the United States as iPhone and Google Inc. Android devices continue to surge in popularity. “It’s a big step for Apple to be able to offer this to customers, both consumers and businesses.”

But buying an unlocked iPhone may be less appealing for some users if AT&T’s proposed $39-billion takeover of T-Mobile — now under review by government regulators — is approved, because it could eliminate the cost advantage of using T-Mobile’s network.

“The challenge will be what happens if the merger goes through,” said Parul Desai, policy counsel for Consumers Union, publisher of Consumer Reports, which opposes the merger. “We think it will increase prices for consumers. You’d have Verizon and AT&T controlling more than 80% of the market. Folks won’t have anywhere else to go if they want a low-cost competitor.”

When Wadhwa argued with AT&T about his $800 roaming bill, the company agreed to lower it to $300. Still, he became an instant fan of unlocked iPhones.

“It’s my phone and I should be able to use it wherever I want,” Wadhwa said. “Why should AT&T have a monopoly when I go abroad?”

While he’s a devoted Apple user, he won’t hesitate to switch to an Android phone if using an unlocked iPhone becomes too difficult in the future.

“They are a close second” to the iPhone, Wadhwa said. “There are so many options now. And they [Android phones] will work anywhere in the world.”

Boudreau writes for the San Jose Mercury News/McClatchy.

Copyright © 2011, Los Angeles Times

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Update.

A friend of mine recently came from the USA with his Iphone.

I confirmed that voice service, once he had swapped in his Thai SIM, worked in Bangkok.

Also confirmed the 3G does not work in Bangkok.

2G does work so you can get a really slow internet connection after paying the 790 baht access fee for unlimited data usage.

Despite all the smoke and mirrors from certain commenters, the original post is confirmed correct.

3G in Thailand uses a different set of frequencies than in the U.S. You cannot bring your U.S. GSM compatible smartphone to Thailand, swap the SIM, and get 3G.

It’s true that some of the frequencies are supported but all frequencies must be working for the 3G to connect.

The 3G on European GSM cellphones should work in Bangkok. I’ll have to wait to encounter a friend with a European model to check it out.

I also confirmed that the portable Wireless Hotspot is disabled on Iphones.

The latest model Thailand android smartphones have the Wireless Hotspot enabled .

You turn this on and it creates a Wi-Fi hotspot using your cellphone 3G connection and the built in Wi Fi transmitter.

Turn on the Wi-Fi hotspot on your Android smartphone and connect with your laptop just like you would with any Wi-Fi connection.

This frees you from searching for free Wi-Fi for your laptop or tablet computer.

The speed is acceptable for internet surfing but bogs down for TV viewing.

It’s hard to underrate the value of this feature because it frees you from having to pay Wi-Fi fees in hotels and coffeeshops, Starbucks and Au Bon Pain charge for it in Thailand, and gives you full  internet access with your laptop when you are in your car, on a bus, or exploring in the middle of the Issan countryside.

If all you do is light internet surfing then an Android phone Wi-Fi hotspot is all the internet connection you need and unlike on the Iphone, the internet connection continues to function when  you make a voice call.

Just one of the huge problems committing to Apple hardware is giving Apple control over the features of your phone and other computer equipment.

On the IPhone, the WiFi hotspot feature is disabled and, hence, unavailable.

Apple does this so you have to pay multiple times for internet access. Once for your phone, once for you laptop, and again for your Ipad. Buy Apple and pay 3 times for the same 3G connection with your mobile carrier.

Like it says in the original post:

Buying an Iphone shackles you to the Apple brand and is the financial equivalent of letting Apple install a conduit into your wallet that drains your money in perpetuity.

What’s really ridiculous about the situation  is that Apple forces you to pay thrice for 3G internet access on your Apple devices so they can get their 20% commission from the cell phone provider — in the US, this means paying about $80 per month to AT&T so Apple can get their $16 commission.

Executive summary: Apple sucks and only metrosexuals who think an Apple product confers some sort of cachet buys Apple products.

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The Android smartphone market is also much more diverse and open with each cell phone manufacturer free to enhance the basic operating system with cool features.

Example—the HTC Incredible, besides having the free Wi-Fi Hotspot featured enabled and full 3G functionality, also has this cool password feature.

We all know that cellphone security is crucial in The Thailand Girl Scene. Thai girls consider it moral to pick up your unguarded cellphone and go through the call history, photographs, and contact list searching for incriminating evidence. And they frequently find it.

Most phones have a password feature but it requires using the keyboard to enter the password each time you access the phone. It is too hard and time consuming to key in your password each time the phone rings and the feature is rarely enabled by most users.

The HTC Incredible has this cool feature which solves phone security in the Thailand Girl Scene problem.

With password protection enabled, this 9-dot matrix appears on your screen.  Instead of keying a password you simply swipe your finger over 9 dots in a pre-specified pattern. This can be done almost instantaneously and makes unlocking the phone quick and convenient. Password protection is actually viable with this feature.

Enable this feature and you can leave your phone unguarded when one your girls is around it.

If only Nikon and other camera manufacturers would copies this to their DSLR’s and pocket cameras.

🙂

BigBabyKenny

 

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Before smart phones and mobile internet, it was possible to use one phone in the U.S. and Thailand. Thailand uses the GSM standard which specifies certain frequencies and data protocols for cellular phones. In the U.S., T-Mobile plus other carriers also used the GSM standard so phones brought from these U.S. carriers worked in Thailand with a simple SIM swap. Verizon and Sprint/Nextel use the CDMA standard which uses different frequencies and data protocols.  For this reason, expensive Verizon cellphones are rendered worthless in Thailand because they transmit on the wrong frequencies.

With smart phones, the one phone for both countries strategy is no longer viable even if you have a U.S. phone that supports the GSM standard. US GSM phones use different frequencies for 3G even though they otherwise adhere to the GSM standard. This means that smartphones brought from the U.S. can make voice calls but data service, i.e. 3G, doesn’t work in Thailand. If you want 3G functionality you have to  buy a second phone that supports the Thai system and transmits/receives on the right frequencies.

Metrosexuals (you know who you are) with their Iphones have to buy a new Iphone for Thailand which brings us to Apple’s pricing policy.

Apple employs a sophisticated pricing plan that uses the Iphone’s cachet to extract maximum revenue per customer over the products lifecycle. Customers purchasing Iphones, give Apple not only the purchase price but also a share of every dollar they pay the carrier for voice and data service.  In addition, Apple makes money off apps and music purchased on ITunes. They also secretly collect information about your onlife life and sells the information to third parties. It’s estimated that over the life of an Iphone, Apple receives around $1500 in revenue per phone. Good for Apple but it sucks for the customer’s who pay.

In addition, the latest generation Iphone sells for an incredible 23,807 baht ($794) in Thailand. The high price is again because of Apple’s sophisticated pricing scheme. When they introduce a new product, such as the Iphone, a very high price is initially set so those who have to have the latest and greatest get charged a premium for being “cool”. After a year or so, those sales have been exhausted and Apple lowers the price to capture the next tier of customer who are willing to pay a bit less. Each year, the price goes down and the next tier of customers buy. Over time, this allows Apple to extract the maximum from the market. This is the same pricing scheme pioneered years ago by Sony selling Betamax VCR’s.

Buying an Iphone shackles you to the Apple brand and is the financial equivalent of letting Apple install a conduit into your wallet that drains your money in perpetuity.

Buying an Iphone lets Apple get a financial piece of you and collect data on everything you do online — data access, voice service, music and media purchases are all recorded and Apple collects a toll from you.

Thankfully, the free market provides an alternative to giving Apple all your money– an Android smart phone.

These phones are widely available from multiple companies, HTC, LG, Samsung, Motorola, etc., in Thailand at prices that are almost exactly the same as you would pay in the U.S. without committing to a long term contract.

Most common apps are free and the app market is unregulated. Installing unapproved apps doesn’t void any warranties or user service agreements and apps are available that allow you to do all kinds of things to your phone that you cannot do with the locked down must be approved by Apple apps—like turn off and disable all Apple’s data collection and monitoring protocols.

There are currently more Android phones sold than Iphones and the open source nature of the Android App market only means that the gap between what you can (or are allowed by Apple) to do with your Iphone vs. Android phone will only widen in the future.

One of the coolest apps for The Thailand Girl Scene is installing Google Translate. This automatically integrates with SMS messaging and translates on the fly from English to Thai. Type a SMS and you have the option of translating it to Thai before sending. The translation is not perfect but it does allow you to communicate waaaaaay more precisely than sending English to a non-English speaker.

If you are a socialist or communist who believes in strong central government that should tell people what to do, what to think, and what to read then you are an Apple customer.

If you are more the free market Milton Friedman/Ronald Reagan type who believes people are smart enough to figure out for themselves what is good for them and the most important thing about government is placing constraints on its power you are a natural Android customer.

I recommend the HTC Incredible as a top end Android phone for Thailand. It has the latest 1ghz processor, the latest version of the Android operating system, and HTC has tweaked the user interface so that is natural, easy to use, and incorporates many useful little features. Like all Android phones it syncs with your Gmail account so migrating over simply involves entering your gmail account and password. All  your contacts are synchronized. When you call someone, the numeric keypad comes up and you begin entering the contacts. The 1ghz processor makes the phone fast and responsive and it rarely hangs while the processor churns away.

The HTC incredible costs 16,900 THB ($563 USD) at Jaymart -30% less than an Iphone 4 and you avoid all the Apple bullshit.

Unlimited pre-paid internet access on the DTAC network is 790 THB ($26 USD)–comparable to U.S. pricing.

The vendors at MBK will offer a $1000 THB discount if you ask and you can bargain them down to a $2000 THB discount plus get a VAT refund when you leave the country.

BigBabyKenny

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  1. Rhetorical Question says:

    Funny or Pathetic?
     
    Watching Daffyduckshit keep posting here trying to get kenny fucktard to acknowledge their existence.
     
    Hey Harry Zink why don’t you crawl back to  your anonymous hate site and post there.
     
    Oh yeah. Nobody reads you hate site so posting on it is like putting up a post it note on your refrigerator.
     
    Hahahahahahaha!

  2. BigBabyFucktard says:

    Kenny’s a FUCKTARD. Kenny’s a FUCKTARD. Kenny’s a FUCKTARD. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  3. Rhetorical Question says:

    Is Kenny really a fucktard?

    The general consensus according to the comments here is YES, yes he is!

  4. RealDaffyDuck says:

    In memory of Steve Jobs resigning as CEO I’ve gone out and bought a new Iphone 4 as a keepsake. I then had Steves face engraved on the back. Then I went and drove to his neighborhood where I waited until dark. Then I managed to scale the security fence around his house. Then I attempted to enter an open window. Thats when the security guard saw me, but I managed to escape and when things had quietened down I went back to his letterbox and masturbated on it – the only way I know to show Steve how much I love him  

    Hahaha Hehehe Hohoho

  5. Ronbert says:

    I love Kenny and this website so much I will keep posting under other names because it fools people. You know if not for the Summers thread this blog would be dead but I will keep trying to lure others here for my hero Kenny.

  6. Carola Soans says:

    Thanks for a marvelous posting! I genuinely enjoyed reading it, you are a great author.I will make sure to bookmark your blog and will often come back in the future. I want to encourage that you continue your great writing, have a nice day!

  7. Hair Club for Men says:

    When Steve Green finally flees back to Thailand he’ll be bald.
    Yeah, Steve’s losing his hair.
    Big shiny bald spot.
    So when “Penny” as he is known to his intimes returns, will he shave it all
    off or will he do that tricky tonsure thing with elastic bands and non-toxic adhesives.
     
    Just another bald wannabe chav cunt spending Mom’s money.
    In the New England Steve is firing squad bait.

  8. BigBabyAsshat says:

    Version 3.0 is just as stupid as the original.

    Iphone’s from the US don’t work in Thailand?

    Kenny, you are one big Asshat

  9. SOB says:

    Hahahahaha. Asshat is right.

    Why not change the name of this site to THE FUCKWIT CHANNEL.

    Pin up a photo of Kenny and Keith as the poster boys.

  10. DH says:

    (snicker)

  11. END OF STORY says:

    Hahahaha.

    End Of Story

  12. RealDaffyDuck says:

    To think Kenny would know more about Smart phones than me!

    Hahaha Hehehe Hohoho

    My duck pea-brain is more than a match than Kennys. All this smart phone knowledge does have its drawbacks though. It means there is no room for a personality so if I come across as a *tard* then you can blame AT&T & Steve Jobs. Oops there I go name dropping again

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  14. International Calling Plans says:

    This is questionable information for your readers. One place you can go is google to get the best rates.

  15. So This Is It says:

    Here we see the desperate attempts to keep this dying blog alive by allowing spammers to comment.

    What a sad state.

  16. Rodger Olbert says:

    Your RSS feeds do not work properly and there is no prompt notification of alerted posts. Please fix this.

  17. HIV Pill says:

    When you say rapid do you mean a pcr? Because the oralrapid test still only tests for antibodies and they have to build up first (much later then 72hrs) and the PCR I belive can only be preformed after 7days. Duh!

  18. RealDaffyDuck says:

    ^ *HUH!* You really think Kenny has the slightest idea how to run a blog?

    Hahaha Hehehe Hohoho

    *Hordes* of readers are leaving his *worse for wear* blog for BigDummyKenny – the blog BBG’ and I run. Well actually theyre not as readership has remained rather static since day 1 and apart from 1 drunken dumbass Aussie from Pat Chong taking the piss out of me constantly – *I know who you are!!* – there’s actually nobody else over there. But if you know how to fudge the readership numbers with a bogus counter then you can fool anyone!

    Toodles

  19. Best Cannoli says:

    talian dessert recipes aren’t that hard to make!

    You can make THE BEST tiramisu even if it’s your first try! (Really!)

    An even an Italian biscotti recipe can be made with most of the ingredients in your pantry.

    I used to look in the bakery case and think, cannoli recipes must be really complex. Wrong! (Especially if you buy the shells already made). Once I realized there aren’t that many cannoli filling recipes – I just got food decorator crazy and learned how to put on the frillies and pretties to make things look professional.

    It’s all available on italian-dessert-recipes dot com

  20. Quality Spam says:

    Nice, high quality spam

  21. Fatty Frank says:

    What are you talking about here?

    A friend of mine gets 3G on AIS with no problems on his HTC phone he bought in the US.

  22. Nuff Said says:

    Anyone can. It’s just that Kenny simply has no idea what he’s talking about.

    Nuff Said

  23. Smartphones in Thailand- V4.0 says:

    Smartphones in Thailand- V4.0….

    where Kenny finds out his phone he bought in Thailand doesn’t work on T-Mobile

    Ouch!

  24. Custom Jewels says:

    Keeping current with the trends and technology is the best way to be sure you don’t make these mistakes. Remember that both change with great speed and when you don’t look at it.

  25. Fuckin and Drunken says:

    More stupid shit here too.

  26. Numpty Fuck says:

    I am glad Kenny finally realized what a fool he was making himself out to be and decided NOT to update his post with more BULLSHIT in v4.0.

  27. Change This Thread says:

    Please rename this thread to “Smartphones & Dumb Professors in Thailand 3.0”

  28. Realdaffyduck says:

    ^ Yes what a fool this guy is. I remember when I used to suck up to Kenny constantly. Those were the days….me doing what I’m good at – kissing ass and constantly sucking up. We had a special bond common among intellectuals

     Then he started ignoring me 🙁 .Well there’s one thing you don’t do to a  person with Aspergers Syndrome and thats ignore him. It changed me. I got all bitchy and started acting like a jealous 13 year old girl….nobody dumps Harry Zink!

    I started with the bitchy letters & emails to his university- anything to get back at him. BBK Version 1 disappeared off the internet. I won 🙂 Hahaha Hehehe Hohoho nobody beats Daffyduck

    Then he started BBK Ver 2 🙁 and I was made to look a fool *AGAIN*

    So I started BigDummyKenny – that taught him a lesson!

     

  29. Ronru says:

    Shut up Fakedaffyduck. Kenny only sucks up to people who treat him like the Self Professed Master of the Universe he want everyone to think he is. He doesn’t like smart people who can figure out he’s a shithead.

    Look at this article about 3g and iphones. It’s full of lies and complete bullshit. Call kenny on it and he comes out with v2, v3 trying to convince people otherwise.

  30. GIGO says:

    Wrong
    Wrong
    Wrong

    You have no idea what you’re talking about Kenny.

  31. Says Who? says:

    Who’s the dumbass who wrote this column? You don’t know shit boy!

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  33. RealDaffyDuck says:

    Well foks

    I’ve been busy since the release of the iPhone4S. Apart from chatting with single lonely men on facebook I’ve been hoarding all the *cheap* iPhone 4’s I can find on eBay

    Then with my 2 dozen iPhones, pink triangle magazine, and plenty of lube I’m hitting Thailand. You wouldn’t think anyone would buy second hand outdated iPhones that have been dropped onto concrete 20 times but I can’t tell you enough how fucking dumb the average expat is

    I’ll have them *ALL* sold inside 3 days – now who says Harry Zink is stupid?

    Hahahaha Hehehehe Hohohoho

  34. Laughing Out Loud says:

    haha – v3.0 hit the trifecta for inaccuracy and thank you for that kenny

  35. RealDaffyDuck says:

    ^ Yes isn’t he a *Tard*! Knows as much about smart phones as I know about dating women

    But we all knew that, didn’t we

  36. Watcher says:

    I like watching tards flounder in the muck. That’s why I enjoyed reading this post so much.

  37. Perth Andy says:

    Yea, this post is mostly shyte. Don’t listen to this fool.

  38. gazer says:

    Whos the tard Watcher?

  39. Debunker says:

    Haaaaaa.
    Nice job dunce.

  40. New York Neil says:

    This is complete nonsense Kenny.  I was getting 3g+ in several areas when I was in Bangkok last month on my US purchased iphone 3gs.
     

  41. I Wanna Know says:

    Who authored this piece of fiction?

  42. Raõul Villegas says:

    Señor Kenny, he is a very smart man. Everything he writes is truth.
    You are just a jealous villainous man. In Venezuela, where I am from, we worship smart, educated man like señor Kenny. In Venezuela, we kik people like you, like we kik bad impolite dogs.

  43. Knob Spotter says:

    Mr Villegas now claims to be from Venezuela but last year he was claiming to be from Panama.

    Like this post, another fiction of Kenny’s imagination.

  44. RealDaffyDuck says:

    When I trip down to Mexico to hire prostitutes I always meet *Tards* like Mr Villegas, always wishing they were me – the guy with lots of money and always the babe magnet

    Yes I meet losers like Raoul Villegas in the bars all the time desperately asking me to help them illegally enter the USA. There is no way in hell I’ll help South American scum

    Keeping Kenny honest
    Harry Zink

  45. Mundie says:

    For an object lesson in what happens when a blog administrator abandons all responsibility for managing comments refer to the BigBabyKenny blog.

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  47. Say whattttt? says:

    BS.

  48. Cricket says:

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  49. cricket says:

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  50. ORM says:

    Useful info. Lucky me I discovered your web site accidentally, and I’m surprised why this coincidence did not took place in advance! I bookmarked it.

  51. Wadaco says:

    If you’re really lucky you’ll realize that almost everything Kenny said in this post is wrong and not listen to him.

  52. Could-ya-be-more-wrong says:

    Wadaco
    Didn’t you mean to say, “almost everything Kenny says in this website is wrong…”?

  53. Board says:

    Could-ya-be-more-wrong says:
    April 8, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    Wadaco
    Didn’t you mean to say, “almost everything Kenny says in this website is wrong…”?

    My feelings as well.

  54. Observation says:

    It seems there’s an alarmingly large degree of inaccuracy on this blog.
     
    Is this normal?

  55. crickets says:

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  56. crickets says:

     

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  57. So, did you ever figure out why your Android phone never got 3G in Thailand *or* in the USA?

    HAHAHA HEHEHE HOHOHO!

    So, whatever happened to that much ballyhoo’d “Server Upgrade”, Kenny.

    Those pictures aren’t coming back, aren’t they, because your “server upgrade” was caused by you having a catastrophic hard drive loss, but you can’t admit, can you?  

  58. Plus, after -re-reading this article, and most of the accompanying thread, it is utterly amazing how much BBK not only initially gets wrong regarding 3G technology, but then continues to insist and compound how wrong he is, by making up more lies — when, in  fact, his current smartPhone still doesn’t even get 3G even in the US (and never got 3G in Thailand). Funny…. or Sad.

  59. There’s an incredible amount of plain inacccuracy and misleading information in this blog. What is the point?

     

  60. This guy’s a teacher? Sad indictment of the educational system.

  61. fat cricket says:

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  62. Too Funny says:

    You don’t like that big dummy site and that’s why ya keep changin the links

  63. Cheering on... says:

    You go, Kenny – keep changing those links, and by all means, don’t fix your site.

    Hahaha Hehehe Hohoho! 

  64. Capt. Charles says:

    Where did you get your informations? I know most of what you wrote here is not true.

  65. Grumble says:

    Yep, this post is a collection of half truths and incorrect statements. BBK, whoever you are, YOU SUCK

    lol

  66. Cheering on... says:

    Nicely summarized!

  67. Waldo says:

    I laugh out loud every time I read this article and how kenny kept trying to cover his ass with the revisions.

    Next time you try to CYA, try Depends for Adults.

  68. This Is News says:

    Bump it up.

  69. William B says:

    This is BS. I was able to get 3G service on my unlocked iphone 4 during my trip to Thailand.

    Do you provide misinformation on everything you write?

  70. Skeeter says:

    Smart phones. Stupid Author.

  71. Just Sayin says:

    Why no V4.0? Because Kenny is a dumbass.

    This story, like this website, is a disaster.

  72. Bwahahaha says:

    Because Kenny’s Android phone is still showing ‘E’ where it should show ‘3G’ – he’s like the flashing ’12:00′ on VCRs in the 80s…
     

  73. Temple Pedo says:

    If he had a girl with him over the age of 15 he would have gotten 3g. Yep.

  74. Angry Crickets says:

    Is this a surprise? Kenny can’t even operate a website.

    chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp. 

  75. Ohm says:

    Not too smart are you?

  76. Rocket Scientist says:

    He is utterly incompetent at running a website, why would he show he’s any smarter on selecting his mobile phone?

  77. Curious says:

    ROTFLOL!

    Too busy to fix the broken images on his website? 

  78. Repeat says:

    The extent to which BBK gets things wrong are quite spectacular at times. Look at his slovenly crafted article on mobile phones.
    If you have the background or have done a bit of research you know most of what BBK says in his article is false. He comes to the wrong conclusions based upon incorrect information and his advice on purchasing a smart phone will have you needlessly throwing away money.
     
    BBK sets himself up with this spectacularly incorrect statement:

    Before smart phones and mobile internet, it was possible to use one phone in the U.S. and Thailand. Thailand uses the GSM standard which specifies certain frequencies and data protocols for cellular phones. In the U.S., T-Mobile plus other carriers also used the GSM standard so phones brought from these U.S. carriers worked in Thailand with a simple SIM swap. Verizon and Sprint/Nextel use the CDMA standard which uses different frequencies and data protocols. For this reason, expensive Verizon cellphones are rendered worthless in Thailand because they transmit on the wrong frequencies.
    With smart phones, the one phone for both countries strategy is no longer viable even if you have a U.S. phone that supports the GSM standard. US GSM phones use different frequencies for 3G even though they otherwise adhere to the GSM standard. This means that smart phones brought from the U.S. can make voice calls but data service, i.e. 3G, doesn’t work in Thailand. If you want 3G functionality you have to buy a second phone that supports the Thai system and transmits/receives on the right frequencies.

    Wrong facts. Wrong conclusions.
    We’re not sure of how far back BBK is referring, but we’ll go back to just before the GSM era.  Before 1990, cell service in the U.S.A. was mostly on 450mhz and 850mhz frequency. McCaw Cellular (later to become AT&T) operated on 850.  In Thailand it was on the 470Mhz and 800Mhz bands. AIS was the first provider to offer digital GSM service on the 900mhz band around 1995 (they were granted a 30 year monopoly on using that frequency in 1990 and the first service was analog, not digital). DTAC provided their service on the 800 and 1800 frequencies (and you can forget about True and Hutch, they came online around in 2002-2003).
    It’s self evident what was written by BBK  is incorrect.  In the USA (the country BBK  references) the 900Mhz and 1800Mhz frequencies aren’t available. Nowadays AT&T uses the 850Mhz band and T-Mobile uses 1900Mhz, The other carriers use CDMA (Verizon, Sprint, Alltel) on the 850Mhz and 1900Mhz frequencies.
    When you consider all the derivates of CDMT, TDMA, GSM, UMTS, HSPA and HSDPA on the frequencies it gets quite complicated.  Those issues are mute because the frequencies used in the 2 countries are different.  In the 1990s and early 2000s with the technology of the time and the different frequencies, you just couldn’t take a phone in the USA and use it in Thailand.   If not for smart phones that would still be true today.
    Does anyone remember how big the phones were in the early 1990s? They were huge. I had one and the battery life was terrible, there was no Sim card slot and you were locked to one carrier. It’s only because of smart phones that you have the ability to use the same phone in different countries. Those tech guys I know in the telcomm industry sometimes refer to Gen 1 smart phones as the first phones having the capability to switch between the different frequencies and communication protocols due to the intelligence built into the chip handling the radio functions (transmit/receive). They refer to Gen 2 phones as having full blown Operating Systems with the increasingly complex assortment of features and functionality. Regardless of the definition, it’s the smart phones which made it possible to use one phone in each country.
    The real problem, which is completely ignored by .. , is where you buy the phone, specifically buying a phone in the USA causes problems. The phone companies there have such strong lobbying arms they can get away with anything. Did you know the DMCA as first drafted made it illegal to unlock phones in the USA? Only after complains by consumers and an amendment, which must be renewed every 2-3 years, is it legal. Politics aside, this is the main reason you can’t get a factory unlocked phone in the USA. FYI, phones can be locked several different ways; so they work a) only within one country b) only with one carrier or c) only with one specific SIM.
    So the real reason BBK can’t use that nifty new iphone, HTC, LG, Samsung or any other smart phone bought in the USA is he bought a locked phone from someone like AT&T.  (BTW, their policy on unlocking phones is the worst of all US carriers and for that and privacy reason I avoid AT&T at all costs. Last I heard, T-Mobile and other will allow you to unlock the phone after the contract commitment has been fulfilled.)
    BBK goes on to make the following statement:

    If you are a socialist or communist who believes in strong central government that should tell people what to do, what to think, and what to read then you are an Apple customer. If you are more the free market Milton Friedman/Ronald Reagan type who believes people are smart enough to figure out for themselves what is good for them and the most important thing about government is placing constraints on its power you are a natural Android customer.

    BBK should add a government which kneels to every corporate whim to his list.  He then goes on complaining about Apple and their pricing policies and again repeats the same incorrect statements about the phones inability to handle different frequencies. It’s not true. The insides of a phone model is usually the same. It would be too expensive to make separate chips and separate models of the same phone for different countries. So the manufacturers lock the phone at either the firmware, network, SIM level (or a combination of the 3) for phones headed to the USA.
    What BBK doesn’t know is the Verizon version of the iphone 4 could have been a world phone. All it needed was a SIM slot, additional antenna and the unlock program. The “Smart” inside the phone is already there:
    http://www.9to5mac.com/51140/verizon-iphone-tear-down-posted-reveals-qualcomm-gobi-chip-gsm-worldphone-compatible/
    http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/inside-verizon-iphone-new-antenna-qualcomm-chip-global-use/2011-02-08
    Again, the problem has nothing to do with the features and functions of the phones and everything to do with the power of the phone companies in the USA to squeeze the consumer (something BBK doesn’t consider).
    How Can This Information Save Me Money?
    First and foremost, don’t listen to BBK Seriously, his recommendation will have you wasting money.
    If you have a smart phone and are happy with it, see if it operates on the 900Mhz or 1800Mhz frequency band. Look it up online. If it does, there’s a chance it can be unlocked. There are a number of reputable companies online that have the algorithm for unlocking your phone for $10-$30 USD. Doing so will not make your phone unusable with your current network carrier. Also be aware that some unlocking methods will void any phone warranty.  Check if you’re unsure.  If you’re skeptical, take the phone to Thailand and go to one of the phone shops at MBK, Pantip or Fortune. In some instances you can go to AIS, True or DTAC directly. Tell them your situation and that you want to get their SIM and want to put 1000 baht on the SIM, but only if they can unlock the phone using a factory unlock method. You may or may not have luck depending upon the phone being one they’ve carried and have the unlocking software from the manufacturer.
    By not following BBK advice, you’ve saved over 16,000 baht and still have your contacts and all your other customized information in your phone.
     
    In the case your phone can not be unlocked or you just want a different phone to use in Thailand, there are a number of low cost phones that have basic features as well as java and web browsing. Low cost being 2,000 – 4,000 baht. Many of these phones are world phones. Meaning they operate on the 850, 900, 1800 and 1900 bands and can be used back in your home country because they are unlocked out of the box. My suggestion would be to first go to Carrefour or Tesco-Lotus and shop. The info cards next to the phones at Carrefour as well as Tesco-Lotus are quite helpful. Their stores have close to 100 different models. If you’re on a budget, don’t overlook the i-mobile brand. It started out as a low cost phone and their phones became hugely popular. A quad-band i-mobile could be had for 2,200 baht not too long ago.
    Concerning the top of the line Smartphones, again BBK information is incorrect. The HTC Incredible does not have the latest processor as it has a single core 1Ghz processor. The latest Smartphone processors available are the 1.2Ghz dual core processor. There are also dual core 1Ghz processors as well as single core 1.4Ghz and 1.2Ghz phones. The bad thing about these phones is for most of them the battery life is terrible. Also, the Android has a bug in their latest OS. Some non-critical services will automatically turn back on after you turn them off. I mention this because having these services running in the background uses power.
    The best advice I can give you is really common sense. Shop for a phone based upon features you need and will use. Not to insult anyone, but don’t take the Thai bargirl approach to buying a phone because it has all the bells and whistles, most of which you’ll never use. That’s just plain stupid. The best site on the internet for looking for phones is GSM Arena. It has an interface which allows you to select the features you want to have on the phones you select. It has nearly every model of the top 30 Manufacturers! Check it out and bookmark it. It really is a great site. If you don’t use it today you will in the future:
    http://www.gsmarena.com/stats.php3
    Go to the site and select the frequencies in use in your country and the protocol and the website will return the page with the model which meet your criteria. If you want to make use of high speed internet, make sure to get a phone with HSDPA(UMTS). As an example, look at the specs on this LG phone:
    Another good site to check out is Smartphone Mag. It provides more in-depth articles on the direction of the industry. Use this information, find your preferred phone and happy shopping. You’ll save money and have a phone that more closely fits your personal needs.
    Forgive me if there are any inaccuracies. I am sure most of it is accurate, but aside from 40 minutes of research I am going mostly on memory and may have forgotten a few things. I’m sure the readers will let me know where I made a mistake. Especially those from BBK who believe everything he prints.
    Toodles

  79. Update.... says:

    The usual – inaccurate, and Kenny sucks as a system administrator.

  80. Purple Cricket says:

    Purple inaccuracies…

  81. Sept. 14, 2011

    I’m doing a bit of international traveling this week, so was using the opportunity to look around a couple of the airports to see what other passengers’ “mobile footprint” is — so far, I find the claims of Android superiority “in the wild” rather mystifying, since 90% of all smart mobile devices I have encountered so far have been iPhones and iPad.I have seen a total of one Android Tablet (A Samsung Tab, I think) – everything else were non-smart phones (cheap flip-phones) or a couple of isolated Blackberry models.Mind you, this is in the US, so maybe this will change once I arrive and look around in Europe. I’ll have an opportunity to check out Zürich in 15 hours.Until then, I’m going to have to assume that the majority of non-iPad tablets are sitting on their shelves at Best Buy (as manufacturers only declare shipped numbers, not sell-through numbers).

    Toodles. 

     http://suaymac.com/showthread.php/148-iPhone-5-rumors-run-amok%21?p=245#post245

  82. Bangkok Buttbuddy says:

    today did the shit shower and shave 3 times…and that was all before noon. talk about a workout. who needs a bike trainer with a schedule like that.

    toobig park called between sss#2 and sss#3 and we talk for 50 minutes. we talk about stuff and make a plan. what a guy.

    now it’s about 5pm and not sure what i’ll do tonight. f14 said he wants me to go to the jolly rancher but now i just want to powernap. said if i’m up for it he can meet me at 10pm. sounds like a plan. yep, that’s the plan.

  83. Kenny Da Muppet says:

    Sorry about misinforming everyone. I was high when I wrote this article about Smartphones.

  84. Kenny Da Muppet says:

    By the way, I lost my Smartphone. Coincidentally, ever since I lost my phone, every now and then my asshole vibrates and I hear a “ding-ding” sound.

  85. Barry the Bore says:

    My hard drive was playing up, so before heading to Pantip Plaza to buy a replacement I wanted to check all connectors were firmly in place. To remove the computer panel to gain access to the hard drive I had to remove 8 pozi drive screws. I wasn’t sure if they were 3/8″ or 7/15″. It didn’t really matter as all I had was a phillips head screwdriver that was too big for the screw heads

    I’m sure I had a Swiss army knife that would solve my problem, but where was it? I looked in all the usual places – the  box of tools in the bottom shelf in the kitchen, under the bed, I even rang TinyWeeny69 to see if he had it. No!

    Well all this mental exhaustion was taking its toll, I was feeling really really tired. Time for a well deserved 5 hour nap & worry about the computer another day

  86. Bangkok But Buddy says:

    @Barry the Bore.

    Good move. Removing 8 screws is a days work. Take a nap, go down to The Ranch, find a good 300 baht buffet, pig out, watch the punters with their whores walking to the taxi stand, go home, take a dump, and go to bed. What a great life I have. 

  87. Barry the Bore says:

    With you there Buddy, seems you and me have got life sorted!

    I went to the Doctor the other week complaining I wasn’t getting enough sleep. I said to the Doc only 6 hours

     “Only 6 hours sleep?” he asked

    “No no no” I said, “I’m awake for 6 hours! Far too long if you ask me. I want at least 20 hours sleep per night”

    I feel being awake 4 hours is more than enough to lead a satisfying & fulfilling life. He wouldn’t help. These modern doctors are hopeless

  88. Barry the Bore says:

    I’ve just woken up from a nap I took after I last posted above & feel thoroughly refreshed. A 168 hour power nap is quite normal for me. Problem is my daiper really stinks of shit & piss after such a long hybination. No problem! I just throw it out of my 3rd floor window trying to hit some unsuspecting farang walking hand in hand along the soi with a prostitute

    Ha Ha, well it keeps me amused 🙂 The soi dogs run off with it most times so out of sight out of mind

    Time to get back to fixing my computer

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