The True Untold Story of the Feud with The Big Mango, the Daily News story, and the Death of BigBabyKenny.com
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I have been vacationing in Thailand for 4 years. Summers and Winter break, I rent an apartment, lease a car, own a motorcycle kept in Bangkok and enjoy living in Thailand.
I have attended language school and am functional in spoken Thai. Thailand is a great place and I wholeheartedly recommended it to anyone looking for adventure and an easygoing good time. If you take the time to get beyond the tourists hangouts and activities, Thailand is a ton of fun and will expand your world view.
For the first couple of years, I patronized a Bangkok bar owned by two Americans, Nicholas Louis Dattoma and Michael Francis Smith and an Englishman–Graham Jones. Nick is still running the bar. Michael is now working for Yahoo in Singapore, and Graham is an Engineering Consultant in the oil industry.
For those not familiar with Bangkok, many bars, including the Big Mango Bar, are actually brothels. They employ girls who are paid a small monthly salary and get most of their pay from commissions on drinks customers buy them and from what are referred to as barfines in Bangkok. A barfine is a fee paid to the bar that frees the girl from working for the rest of the day and allows the girl to go out with the customers. Sometimes customers take girls dancing and to dinner but most of the time they take the girl home for sex. There are quotas and girls who don’t get barfined enough or induce enough men to buy them drinks get their salary proportionately reduced.
It sounds worse than it is because the girls are all over 20, are free to quit whenever they want, go home with whomever they please, and, in the end, many actually end up marrying and/or girlfriending men they meet at the bar. Legions of Thai girls from poor, uneducated, impoverished backgrounds have found opportunity and a better life by working in Bangkok bars and meeting foreign men over the years.
The whole system sounds a bit unsavory to Western sensibilities but the system is ubiquitous in Bangkok among foreigners and native Thais and a form of the same system is prevalent in most Asian countries–Communist China, Hong Kong, Japan, and Vietnam. It is even rumored that the wives of several high Thai government officials and politicians started out as a hostesses in similar clubs. Before BigBabyKenny.com was turned off, you could have read through the many posts on the site for more information. Now that BigBabyKenny.com has been turned off, I’m not sure if an equivalent source exists.
The Big Mango Bar advertised itself with a blog. Most of the entries were written by Michael and Nick and they cataloged their experiences navigating The Thailand Girl Scene. The blog was humorous, provocative, eye opening, great reading, and I was an occasional and popular contributor under the screen name BigBabyKenny.
The feud started over an article I wrote entitled Fresh Produce Shopping Part 2C-Buddha and Babes by BigBabyKenny
The gist of the article was advice to guys looking for long term relationships to leave the bars (referred to as The Reservation) and look for potential girlfriends and wives among the universe of normal Thai women. The article specifically recommended hanging out at a popular shrine in downtown Bangkok where women with romantic problems go to make offerings and ask the shrines’ god to deliver themselves from bad relationships or help them find a good husband.
My suggestion was to dress nicely, politely approach women who were leaving the shrine after asking the shrine’s god for relationship relief, introduce themselves, strike up a conversation and ask them to share a cup of coffee at the nearby mall. That way they could meet normal Thai women instead of Thai girls who worked in bars, who make a living on drink commissions and barfines, and, frequently, are specialists at scamming foreign men out of their money.
Nick and Michael originally published the article and then decided it was too disrespectful of Thai Culture and religion. The feud started because after censoring my article, they made some disparaging remarks about me on their blog and refused me the opportunity to respond to them. It really got me going that guys who owned and supported themselves by running a brothel/bar would get on their moral high horse and excoriate me for disrespecting Thai culture. What they were doing seemed far worse.
There was a lot of interest in the Bangkok Expat community about exactly what was in the article but Nick and Michael deleted all discussion and comments about the episode from their blog and continued disparaging me in print.
A couple of months later, I started BigBabyKenny.com so that my original article could see the light of day and to defend myself against the things Nick and Michael had written about me.
The spirit of BigBabyKenny.com was to allow anyone and everyone to say what they wanted, when they wanted, and how they wanted. Rather than deleting and censoring argument, BigBabyKenny.com would encourage open debate where anyone could say anything about everything—- No Hidden Agenda, No Censorship, and No Bullshit was chosen as the sites byline.
In the first few months, debate was animated, spirited and intense, Nick and Michael took a lot of heat and criticism and they didn’t like it. They felt the adverse reaction was affecting their business —driving customers away from their bar.
Shortly thereafter, I began receiving threatening anonymous emails. These emails were very straightforward. If I didn’t turn off my blog I would be beaten and possibly murdered. The address of my Bangkok apartment was noted and the anonymous emailers threatened to wait on the street outside my apartment building, ambush me when I returned home on my motorcycle, and beat me up or kill me . The emails also threatened that if I was seen in public they would call a group of Big Mango supporters and they would beat me up.
I also received emails directly from Graham threatening to out me as a sex tourist if the blog was not turned off. These were sent to my university email address. In one memorable one, Graham threatened to hire people to stand in front of the university library handing out fliers identifying me as a sex tourist and pedophile—- if I didn’t take down my site.
The university where I work also received a series of anonymous emails pointing out the existence of my site, which was anonymous and had no university affiliation. Anonymous pages were put up on Wordpress.com where the site was mischaracterized and my character was attacked.
I had several email exchanges with university administrators over the summer and they confirmed what I already knew. In the U.S., people have freedom of speech. As a prof., I was free to say what I wanted about anything I wanted. America is a great country, isn’t it?
At this time, I also made a decision to dig in and not be pushed around. The threats of violence, the anonymous emails to the university, and the open threats from Graham were nasty and just not right. Giving in to them, although it was the easy thing to do, was just wrong. Come what may I was going to face them down.
Nick, Michael, and Graham could threaten all they wanted but I had done nothing wrong and I wasn’t going to let them silence me or push me around. Whatever happened, I was not going to let them prevail.
Things heated up in the Fall when Nick, Michael and Graham put a restaurant they owned, The Duke of Wellington, on the market. They hired a business broker in Bangkok and the bar was publicly advertised on the internet. Certain claims were made about how much revenue the bar was generating and that the bar was profitable. These claims were discussed openly on BigBabyKenny.com.
Nick felt the open public discussion of their claims was preventing them from unloading the restaurant and this time Nick wrote the university president under his own name asking the university to force me to turn off my blog. The letter was very facetious because it conveniently glossed over the brothel aspect of their business. Nick claimed I was hurting the continued livelihood of his employees but conveniently omitted mentioning that he, Michael, and Graham were making a living renting the girls they employed for sex with customers. The university gave the same response that in the United States people are free to say what they want. BigBabyKenny.com had no university affiliation and I was free to write what I wanted.
In the following months the university was pelted with anonymous emails about my site. The emailers got public email addresses off the internet, bulk emailed faculty in an attempt to embarrass me, and they wrote the university HR department claiming the site was hosted on university computers—which it isn’t .
A campaign was also started where local newspapers were anonymously emailed.and asked to investigate. The campus newspaper, the Los Angeles Times and the Daily News were written. Others newspapers that I am unaware of might have also been anonymously contacted.
The interesting thing about BigBabyKenny.com is that as time went on, more people found the site, interesting and provocative posts continued to be published, the readership expanded and the site became one of the most popular, widely read, influential, and famous Bangkok Nightlife sites/forums.
The unedited exclusive pictures of nightclubs, bars, Thai clubs, and girls inhabiting the Thailand Girl Scene stand as groundbreaking photojournalism. You couldn’t find anything like it on the internet or in the mainstream press and the photography was one of the most popular features of BigBabyKenny.com.
Open debate and a free uncensored internet worked for a time. .
Most of you are here reading this today because of an article written in the Daily News about BigBabyKenny.com. That article is the direct result of this anonymous email campaign.
The byline of this site has always been No Hidden Agenda, No Censorship, and No Bullshit.
BigBabyKenny.com continued true this ideal to the very end. Every post and comment ever written and posted was preserved — unedited, undeleted, and uncensored. Everyone had a seat at the table and could write what they wanted, how they wanted, and when they wanted. BigBabyKenny.com accepted and published posts from anyone and everyone about anything having to do with life in Thailand and The Thailand Girl Scene. Any interested reader could go back and read everything and anything that had ever been written there. History was not censored, redacted, or altered in any way. Everything that had been said and done was recorded and preserved..
Unfortunately, BigBabyKenny got too good for it’s own good.
The articles were too good at laying bare the economic underpinnings, the inter-personal dynamics, the nuts and bolts, and even the humorous side of The Thailand Girl Scene.
The discussion of The Thailand Girl Scene was too interesting and too revealing about the realites of life in a third world country where the usual ways women advance themselves socially and economically in The World are blocked off.
The photography was too good at documenting the nitty gritty nature of the various nooks and crannies of the Thailand nightlife industry.
The realities of life, love, dating, marriage, and sex in Southeast Asia and the politically correct western centric view of the world clashed.
Better to live in a make believe fairy tale western fantasy version of Southeast Asian culture and society than deal with an accurate, well documented truth.
Unfortunately, because I am a professor at a big public university, the popularity and publicity surrounding the ideas, the subjects and questions discussed and debated, and, of course, the ground breaking photography at BigBabyKenny.com became so great that the site had to be turned off.
Here is the official statement from the University on the matter.
When principles and reality clash sometimes reality wins.
BigBabyKenny
I’m sure this story will net you a couple of Bullshit Awards from BigDummy, again. Undoubtedly, we’ll have a field day with the red correction pen.
And once again the censorship has won.
You Americans are so hypocritical. Free and democratic… funny…
Very sorry ’bout you, Kenny.
I liked your site and appreciated your courage.
Good luck!
Basilio
PS: mayby some day, you can open the useful information what was collected on your site for registrated users who appreciate it?! Anyway i hope so.
Kenny:
It’s really unfortunate you had to shut down the site because some jackasses couldn’t agree with your views. I can totally see this happening at another country other than the US, but it’s disheartening to see it happening here. I was hoping the bad publicity would go away eventually and not affect the site itself, though I must say I only found out about your site yesterday due to this publicity. I probably wouldn’t have found it without it. I only got to read a few of the articles and found it very informative and fun to read. Even though I married a Thai woman myself I never visited Thailand before – I met her in Los Angeles and married her here as well. We’ve visited Thailand since our marriage, but never did before. Your site was helpful in understanding her culture even though she was not a typical Thai woman. I’ve never felt I missed the Thai night life as I’ve gone to see the ping pong shows and several of places you and others mention on your blogs. She has always come with me in all the places and she’s never felt threatened by other Thai women. She’s a few years older than I am, but younger women don’t hold a torch to her in my eyes. After typing this message and I gonna go back to Google to see if your site was cached so I can at least read the cached articles until it goes way completely. Good luck in whatever you do in the future blogwise and good luck in your university life.
Fabio
Well..no go on the cached version. Like Basilio, I hope to see the rest of it someday.
best of luck.
Fabio
It’s OK to write your experienced w/Thai girl. Only bad test is that you are a professor w/Credential education institute. Thai people give high respect to Teacher, Monk and Doctor. Find a good Thai woman (Not a bar girl) and marry her. Stop to be a bed jumper. AIDS is a major killer in Thailand.
Thai in LA: That’s stupid, you can get AIDS here too dumbass. Kenny wears condoms, custom-fit condoms!
Please “professor” Kenneth Ng, I took managerial Economics with you at CSUN!
Leave aside that your teaching is subpar but I went to your office hour and you were online with some Asian chick! And you didn’t know how to usher me out of your office faster so you can go back to your online porn!
I don’t care whta you do in your spare time but you need to step it out on the job!
Yes it seems that the trouble of keeping the site open was not worth it. After all, it really came down to petty arguments about who knew Thailand best. The pissing match is over.
Now what will Kenny’s enemies do with their time?
Whom will daffyduck and the others focus on now?
I would sure hate to be well known in Bangers, if I were involved in this fracas.
If I see daffy in Bangers, I will surely give him a big Liverpool kiss.
But in the end, the Mangoloids blame Kenny for ruining their business. So I guess this is the tit for tat.
I sure Nick and Michael are extremely happy in their new jobs (yeah right).
I leave here with one request.
If anyone has a picture of daffy and his full name and workplace information (not the comic book store he works at on weekends), please send that information to me at bkkspy@ymail.com. I will publish it on a wordpress site for all to read. I know what he looks like, so phony pics will be discarded, (after a good laugh).
In the words of John McLaughlin, “bye bye”.
Yes, your website was just *too* awesome, and that’s why you had to take it down.
Nobody likes awesome websites. They must be removed before their awesomeness blinds us!
This might actually be over, if the main issue was the website content rather than the misuse of state resources in creating and maintaining it.
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If you were not using University Resources, They have no right to infringe in your 1st Amendment rights.
I included a copy for them.. JUST in Case they forgot “THE LAW” of the land
Jesus,
The university is a state institution that is subject to political pressure and I don’t mean directly from voters.
I mean from people who have a direct say over the allocation of funds.
BigBabyKenny
Eric Cartman,
I checked my records. You never took Econ. 308 from me.
I guess your story has the same credibility as the claim you took a class from me.
Thanks for the disinformation.
BigBabyKenny
Thai Girl in L.A.
Professors are supposed to teach students about the world. The way it really is.
BigBabyKenny.com was a snapshot of the real Thailand.
Instead of being mad at a person who just tells it like it is, you should direct your attention to the root causes of the problems.
BigBabyKenny
“Here is the official statement from the University on the matter.”
No text follows, and there is no link. I’d love to see the official statement.
what a bunch of crap, let the man speak the truth, stop acting emotional or finding excuses to portray him as a bad person, the world is unfair and sometimes cruel, deal with it, its not always “cozy and puffy”. just because hes a professor he’s confined to live under suppression? come on that’s ridiculous. This is America people and i had prof NG for a class about two yrs ago and never in no way did he ever disrespect a female student. Funny man so just let him breath and go find some other crap as an excuse to complain. don’t mean to be rude but stuff like this ticks me off
I’m sure this story will net you a couple of Bullshit Awards from BigDummy, again. Undoubtedly, we’ll have a field day with the red correction pen.
A confirmation: After months of denying and lying through his teeth we have Daffy openly claiming credit for running and owning this foolish Dummy site.
And, of course, the death threats and incitement to violence that went with it.
Note the “we” fantasy in which he basks in the delusion of actually having a team and a group of people who can stand him for more than 15 minutes.
Thanks Jesus
I hadn’t actually read it for a few years.
The way every single amendment has been trampled on by assholes in hobnailed boots and every right abrogated by suck-up legalists is kind of sad.
The message is: “In practice, the cornerstone American Democracy no longer applies. So don’t apply it.”
Too much trouble keeping my food down, I guess.
JB
Wass all dis sheeet? Where’s da fotos of me beeetches, dog? How me ladies gonna make money when you be shuttin down my advertising.
ya fuckin yella bellied itty bitty oodle noodle.
What happened to the moto of “no bullshit,” BigBaby? Obviously, what happened here is that CSUN said take the site down or your career is dead here. Why not just say that and spare us this long intellectual masturbation of an excuse.
This is just another example of what a joke and a lie the principle of “freedom of expression” is at American universities or in America period. This principle is only applicable to people with nothing to lose (e.g., a homeless guy shouting in the street) or those with the wherewithal not to be susceptible to economic or political pressure.
sup big nigga juice, my nigga
kenny, ya so asian and yas dun have da balls to see it through.
yas say ya get betches but ya dun offer no evidence unlike ole drummy who just sexed some betch from silpakorn but ya dun hear drummy braggin.
yas deleted drummys seminal post on the fine art of da bumfinga but that knowledge is now lost!!!
how dare ya obliterate such wise words of wisdom!!
with great power comes great responsibility and know yas just shit dea. chai yo!!
drummy is now like that due eli from da book of eli but he aint no blind mudda and would have fukked milo kunis good n hard and give her a bum finga or two but dun get da shakes off her. . . . . .
kenny. yo life be fukked. that fo shiz man.
sux to be you eh??
ya mate drummy
Another site bites the dust. BBK maybe you won’t have your own site but you and others can post articles and comments on the following site -here is the link:
http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/
Chok Dee
On the Stickman site there is the Stickman Weekly with articles, dating back to the year 2000-1, about Thai women, culture, bar fines, living and working in Thailand etc. Also it is the site you can submit your own articles, pictures eyc about Thailand (or nearby places) so here is the link to take directly to this site:
http://www.stickmanweekly.com/Weekly/weekly151.html
Chok Dee
The main Stickman Weekly index page can be found on the following link:
http://www.stickmanweekly.com/index.html
Chok Dee
I am not sure the link about the main Stickman Weekly (Index) site got thru. As it is one of the best info sources of what happens anywhere and everywhere in Thailand. The scams, the good and the bad sides of ‘paradise’ the ‘tricks and the treats’ of Thai women and so on. It is well worth a visit. So here is the link again:
http://www.stickmanweekly.com/index.html
Chok Dee
BBK BigBabyKenny I would love to chat with you about Bangkok. Please email me! RC
OH MY GOD! THEY KILLED KENNY! YOU BASTARDS! LONG LIVE KENNY. GO INTO THE LIGHT MY FRIEND…..
I seriously do not understand what the benefit and point of having such a website is for. Thanks to the internet there are plenty of websites that can display the same information as you have. I do believe in freedom of speech, however you are a professor representing a state university, an academic institution. With this job/position comes certain professionalism and respect.
If you choose to speak about your sex life in Thai land, or would like to educate others about prostitution please do so when you are not a professor at a state university.
After all these prostitutes are human too! What a shame, shame on you!
Well this is what you get for being a male chauvinistic pig. Supporting an industry that continues the degradation and belittling of woman in foreign countries. You make me sick crying about your friends threatening you. These girls “over 20″ (big deal you slime bag) have no encouragement or support to do anything else with their lives and you encourage this activity? As a professor you should be ashamed that you have to leave America to pursue your sicko hobby. Why don’t you just hit up a dance place with a wad of bills in Van Nuys or Hollywood? Oh, because the “girls” are too strong here, huh? Because they are not the subservient Thai girls willing to do anything for a buck over there where it’s the common way women are treated. Do you really think women like to be used by you pigs? No, they are taking your bucks and sacrificing their precious bodies because they have no self esteem at all and obviously no education. You should be outed as a sexual deviant, because if you have to go all the way to Thailand to get laid, what are you hiding? Don’t you realize your “tips” will be used by men who abuse women. Why must we give “tips” to grown individuals on how to get “banged”. You are a waste of human kind thinking you are so intellectual. Your excuse is as good as Pete Townshend’s. If you are worse than what you claim, you will be plucked, not *ucked, eventually.
CDLTNLA
Well said CDLTNLA!! You are so self centered! What makes you think anyone cares about your experiences in Thai?! Who do you think you are? This is why we have something called a journal!! Go write in it! If anything you should contribute help in a positive way to the problem of the prostitution in Thai, and not come and write this nonsense, useless garbage!!!!!!!!!!! SICKO!
CSUN GRAD
Lots of strong opinions here but I think the reality is a lot simpler. The Big Mango blog was always insightful, popular and sometimes too graphic (for me at least) but the moderators had a sense of humour and maintained certain standards of fairness in terms of giving equal respect to very different viewpoints.
BBK always had long, dreary and sometimes downright strange posts that maintained he had some special kind of insight into the bar girl mentality. These always garnered many critical replies, most of which he didn’t have the common sense to ignore.
He eventually made a post in which he described how a guy could pick up a “decent” Thai girl while she was praying (at a famous shrine outside a shopping mall in Bangkok). The moderators were offended and, in my view, quite rightly took the post down. As is normal with BBK he couldn’t accept any other opinions and the relationship went from bad to worse.
BBK is just a guy with a small mind and a big grudge – and the Big Mango is just a bar.
I, unfortunately, took your History of Econ course. Sub-standard and arrogant professor.
I fully agree with everything CDLTNALA said right above me. ALL.OF.IT.
My heart goes out to any poor Thai girl who had to have a drink or sex with you.
Hmmmmm?
“In 2001, a civil lawsuit was filed against him (Prof. Ng) by a then 22-year-old Pasadena City College student, who said Ng mischaracterized her on a website by using photographs of her, then writing erotic fictional tales about her.”
Source : http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_14949624
Oh my….
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=103579313018948&v=wall
Where’s the courage of your convictions, Ng? If you really feel this strongly, then you should have left your professor job and continued with your site instead. I’m sure you of all people know how to make money off girls.
Secondly I’d be more impressed by your truth-saying about the Thai girl scene if you now spent time with a project that helps these girls find alternative ways of earning a living.
Or, if that sounds too hard, if you sold your ass for a buck to see what it is >really< like. Until you've been on that side of the fence, you're only presenting a buyer's perspective of what these girls have to do for a living.
No one wrote more about the Thai G-club scene than BBK–and they’re no more prostituting themselves than any Hooter’s girl wagging her tail for tips in Burbank or Panama City.
Hate to see the site down as I found it entertaining. Hope you start a new site and keep it anonymous.
Into The Heart of Issan – Hi So and Lo So in Burram
The street in the pictures represents the Lo So entertainment option in Buriram.
The families that live in these apartments and houses put out tables at night, serve beer and alcohol, and members of the family and other assorted girls sit there waiting for customers.
You can walk down the street, talk to the girls sitting outside, drink, and get drunk with them. The street is about 100 meters long and has about a half dozen bars with 5 or 6 girls hanging out at each one.
The girls want 300-500 THB to go home with you or to go upstairs to private rooms. Think Lumpini Park quality.
Just like in Ubon and all over Issan, there are underage girls working here. It is kind of depressing, when you see the poverty of the families that live on this street and own and man the bars here. These people have no options, no upside potential in their lives, and are scratching out a living selling anything of value the family has available.
At a couple of the bars, you can see grandpa, grandma, little sister and little brother all sleeping on mats inside the house while you sit outside drinking with their relatives.
The bar owners are very upfront and hungry for business and there isn’t much action here. They ask exactly what you want, and gave off the distinct impression of being very open minded.
When I showed no interest in any of the girls sitting outside, I was offered an underage girl claiming she was 18. I talked to a her awhile and got her to admit her real age which was 15. Instead of buying her a beer (50 THB) I brought her and her sister an ice cream from the nearby 7-eleven—no shit.
You’re a complete asshole and a fucking pervert.
Kenny,
You’re a fucking idiot. You did this all yourself because you just could not ‘work well’ with others. You always had to be right and if you were pushed into near admittance that you were wrong you would label the person a Master of the Universe, and blow them off. If you would only listen to others and not been so god damn arrogant this blog could have been a semi-useful place for entertainment and information. But you’re always right and everyone is always against you. I didn’t read most of the above post, I got to the point where once again you outed the Big Mango guys and stopped there. But your fixation with the Big Mango was the stupidest thing imaginable. Just get the fuck over it.
I first found this site from a link from FriscoDude. At the beginning I liked it and wished you well. I was angered when the FS2M started to censor comments and even wrote a comment in the internationalsexguide.info section on Bangkok Places to Avoid. I was with you 100%. But you have the unique ability to put off people and make supporters enemies. You’re very good at that. And now, as this site is going down into the ash heap of history, all I am left to say is that you are a fucking idiot.
Your Pal,
Bill Simmons
OMG, YOU’RE THE REAL-LIFE QUAGMIRE!!!!
What do former CSUN students of Professor Ng think of his teaching abilities before his website went up?
1/28/09 econ308 ok this doosh’s class really sucks. his pop-quizzes, all the exams and the final are irrelevant to the lectures. you never use the book. assigns an online HW system, which hes too lazy to give out HW and review anything. the class avg was below 65%. he sucks and he always has a gay ass smirk on his face. DONT TAKE THIS CLASS. U WILL REPEAT!!!!!!!
1/20/09 Econ308 One word: AWFUL! He gives you previous lectures and exams so at first I thought it would be a peice of cake. I was WAY wrong. His lectures are pointless – he usually gets off topic talking about RANDOM things that have NOTHING to do with econ. Never uses book. Writes his own examines and is very objective. Do not take this professor!
1/4/09 Econ308 Mr. NG, who hurt you? your real life examples of economic applications are either depressing,or negative. when asked why he put a question on our midterm that wasnt in the material we learned from him he said “because its a thinking class, not a regurtgitating class”.He grades on a curve thank goodness it saved all our butts who were boarderline.
12/29/08 econ300 BAD TEACHER! STAY AWAY! THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY! STAY AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12/29/08 econ308 What a Joke of a class and professor. Justs reads of slides. Im not even sure he know the material himself. Prepare to get a bad grade and waste your time with him
12/11/08 ECON160 STAY AS FAR AWAY FROM THIS CLASS AS POSSIBLE!
11/30/08 econ160 Do not take his class. I cannot think of a more useless professor.
11/28/08 econ308 if you want a passing grade DO NOT TAKE THIS PROFESSOR!! it is the worst class i have everr taken at Csun. His lectures have nothing to do with his tests. He gradess soo hard that the highest grade in the class was a D on a test. even with him curving i failed. He talks about non sense sometimes that doesnt even regard econ.
9/2/08 econ160 If most of the comments say DO NOT TAKE HIM! its for a reason! So save your self a headache and don’t take him. He is the one of the worse professors in csun!
http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=158088&page=5
NOBODY NEEDED TO START A CAMPAIGN AGAINST YOU. YOU DO A GOOD JOB OF IT YOURSELF YOU INCOMPETENT ARROGANT ASS!!!!!
Daffy Duck my friend,
I forgot to congratulate you for beating the old record for burgers consumed in 1 sitting at the Big Mango Bar. I was told you managed to down 5 Big Mango Burgers, 3 large Fries, and 2 Gallons of Coke within 30 minutes. Your winning words “thats an average luncheon for me” proudly displayed below your photograph with that cheeky boyish smile of yours thankfully taking attention away from your acne problem, triple chin, greasy complexion and bald shiny dome
Admittedly more than 1 bar girl has told me you look like a serial killer but lets not talk about your problems during this time of celebration
Congratulations again Daffy
Your friend
The Doctor
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“The feud started over an article I wrote entitled Fresh Produce Shopping Part 2C-Buddha and Babes by BigBabyKenny”
A reference to an experimental recreational drug?
Are you kidding me? This dude is a professor LOL!?
You know, i’m 20 years old and I go to college and do some drugs every now and then and all that good awesome cool stuff or w/e..
But ffs, I don’t want to learn from a professor who is doing the same fucking thing and is OUT OF COLLEGE AND IS A FUCKING PROFESSOR
are you kidding me!?! i dont want my professor to have just go tback from thailand and bought him a few 13 year old girls who were sold by their family, just got done fucking her while she cried and pleaded in a different language for him to stop.
this dude has ruined his life as a professor already — you can tell he is a complete idiot just from the fact that he is attempting to stay in the media and write to newspapers and all this stupid shit — despite his poor view already.
the sites name is “BigBabyKenny” for fuck sakes… this guy HAS TO BE the worst professor on this earth.
bigbabykenny, you are hated by 75% of america, why dont you atleast try to lighten up your image a bit and stop trying to be a mediawhore and go sit in your house and WATCH and OBSERVE things a bit, stop jumping on every fucking thing said about this.. you are making your intelligent, educated ass look like a piece of shit..
not that most people dont think that your intelligent, educated ass is actually extremely idiotic and has been an unintelligent, uneducated ass for his entire life.
gtfoearth
Daffy Duck
Me old cobber,
I was musing over all this civil unrest this morning and thought of a solution to ease the problem. I’m thinking what we need is a target for the red-shirts to throw their gasoline filled bottles at, a rather large object, such as yourself
We could lead you to the hotspot by strategically placing Big Mango burgers along a route to where the red-shirts are holed up. We would then entice you put on a “Thaksin is a wimp” yellow t-shirt in exchange for free Big Mango burger vouchers
Then let the fireworks begin!
What do you think of this sterling idea Daffy?
Or if you don’t want to do that Daffy we can always just hit the gay clubs instead
Your friend
The Doctor
Daffy
Me ‘ol cock
Some may call you a *Big Chicken* but yourll always be a duck to me. Indeed if you want to be compared to anything *Hippo* would be most appropriate – but those agitators out there hate the like of you and I because we are *ALWAYS* rite and they wrong on any subject we care to talk about. Superior blood lines of course!
The Doctor
Daffy I’ve had a letter back from the airline. Their ruling that fatty’s should pay for 2 seats still holds. Sorry I couldn’t get them to relent & only charge you for the 1 seat. They said the poor thai girl sitting next to you has needed counselling for the mental anguish of having to sit next to a *sweaty smelly Farang whale* (her words not mine) for 10 hours
I think we should put you on a diet. Big Mango burgers might be off the menu from now on!
The Doctor
I am not sure what amazes me more, the megalomania of the author (“popular commenter”, “groundebreaking photography”, etc.) or his lack of common sense; America might be the country of free speech but common sense dictates what is allowed for discussion in a public forum (even one as risque as the Big Mango) and what is not, and this real life fact seems to constantly elude the author; one can surmise that BigBabyKenny spent his formative years away from interacting with real people and in real situations where his acuity might have been sharpened.
As for the author’s repeated statements of being a prof at a big public university, it would be interesting to know his standing in the academic circles – especially after this whole affair unwounded. I’m pretty sure his colleagues are excited to collaborate with Dr “Big Baby Kenny” on research projects, and students are equally excited to be taught by a partaker in activities on ”the Reservation”.
Good job, man!
I think Dr. Big Baby Kenny’s standing with superiors and colleagues is fairly well known. He got a PhD from Buffalo! He’s been teaching the same lower level courses for 10 years and has published one time with the help of about 10 other people. Can anyone say Associate Professor!
Welcome home Kenny!
God damn it
How many times do I have to say it
Anything questions related to thailand then ask either myself or Daffy. We know all, you dipshits
I can’t believe we dare to occupy the internet with all you morons
I’m not Kenny!! I *ACTUALLY* predicted the GFC and got my shares out of Kentucky Fried Chicken before they fell
You think a college professor would have any clue about the real world. Of course *NOT*!!!
and by the way Kenny I’m all *MAN*
What goes on behind closed doors between Daffy and myself is none of your business. All I can say is thank God for the Armed forces policy of ‘dont ask, dont tell’
A brief history nonetheless. He came to me with warts ummm,,,,down there,,,, thinking I was a real Doctor. I have a soft spot for fat guys with bald heads so I guess it was match made in Bangkok
He introduced me to a certain company selling really popular cellular phones and I showed him the top gay clubs around town. The rest is history  as they say
Dr. Love.
Congratulations on finding true love.
You don’t know how lucky you are.
555
BigBabyKenny
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Yeah, stupid feckin weasle face but the girls ain’t bad.
IÂ used to fuck guys like that in prison.
Kilgore: Smell that? You smell that?
Lance: What?
Kilgore: Gookamonkey, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that.
[kneels]
Kilgore: I love the smell of Gookamonkey in the morning. You know, one time we had a California University spammed, for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn’t find one of ‘em, not one stinkin’ Gookamonkey. The smell, you know that Killer Kenny smell, the whole hill. Smelled like
[sniffing, pondering]
Kilgore: victory. Someday this war’s gonna end…
[suddenly walks off to get a Big Mango Burger]
Is Michael Smith hating his curly hair so much (shaving it off? Â dreading it? Â letting it sprout army-wig style?)
Wrong hairstyle order Mike? Who the fuck really cares.
because he’s actually a big nigger juice fountain who’s been passing ( well, almost) for less time than he thinks he has.
Just askin’
Hates that curly hair tho’.
Tired of looking like the new kid in school all the time?
(At least you have hair)
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Hey, why not get it conked? ( A little pomade perhaps?)
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BTW, we’ve really enjoyed those smashing shots of you and your little brown sweat shop slaves.
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Rockin’ out in the digital raj, right stud?
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Better haul your ass back to the mothership and retrain.
You’re runnin’ a little thin, guru.
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I wish I had some hair on my head.
I would Color it, curl it, comb it, dredlock it every week like a bar girl and write about it on my blog.
I can’t do much with the big bald bowling ball I have.
I’m so mad.
As anyone with any measure of grey matter or with an education that even pretends to approach the
level of tuition I have attained freely admits; all my life I have done my level best to make friends.
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Following an unfortunate childhood, one that saw me shunted off to third-rate state boy’s schools
and “military academies” in my formative years, and supplemented by marathon masturbation sessions in my
Mom’s basement during which I mastered the computer skills that stand me in such formidable stead I
embarked on a series of self-improvement life exercises I got clear, (thanks LRon) got est’d (thanks Werner)
and established myself as a regular in California’s personality workshop jungle.
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But to no avail.
People still, and by “people” Â I mean anybody and everybody and by “still” I mean at this time and any
and all times before during and after this time . . . . . people still try to avoid me.
I’ve tried everything.
I even set up a website (which due to several technical and administrative oversights can actually be traced back to me as proprietor)
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Now I’m hearing I am going to have to come crawling out from under that flat rock in the well fertilized wetlands overgrowth near the municipal liquid waste outlet I found to live under  the breezy shores of  Lake Palooka.
And to, of all things, defend myself in a lawsuit.
Do you think that anyone, like the Bangkok/California based bar website guys I was trying to help so they’s let me hang around with them when IÂ could afford to come to Bangkok, will help me now?
N-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o !? They won’t.
They’ve left me high and dry.
They just keep passing me off to their lady-boy-wrangler buddy  Steverino Greenbaum.
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Yep. I’d been looking forward to a praycation with the Mangonicles as we traced the Big Mango Bar’s PUA maestro
Slideshow Bob’s sacred path from one G-club to another  in quest of the clear white light of a UNI GIRL threesome.
(Slideshow – a man of great game) assured me that Uni girls would  happily rug-munch for a dildo-wielding mid-forty-ish
players like us. Â . . . . PUA’s “with game” and “killer stacks.”
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We’re not brothel creepers. Mangophiles are “PUA’s with massive game.”
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But we’ve been kicked to the curb.
We’ve been left cruising with homo’s.
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Just the way they did to what few remaining customers they had at their bar.
What’ve they done to the faithful? Â Well we’ve been left with YP and his fagsploits, is all.
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While Slideshow does his digital raj number with his whole new stable of locals he ignores our basic need to be seen as cool
players in the local PUA scene.
We are not mongers we are PUA masters.
I’m doing a series of stack presentations and they’ll soon be posted on Youtube.
(I’ll soon be as famous as Dean and Werewolf)
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I’m not good with rejection.
I think I’ll start a personal vendetta on behalf of all the friends I could have coerced into showing up at my self-financed birthday party that they threw for me.
Those parties were so cool. I was counting the days until Hallowe’en so that I could spring for a keg or two for my new mates. And now I can’t afford to come here unless I get one of those narly free UPS hitch-hikes with seven stops along the way.
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I’m just so mad.
I’m glad I’m good with computers. And the personality workshop thing is just the ticket if you want to network with movie people.
Almost as good as detox.
I recommend Scientology.
I’ve made some good contacts there.
Hollywood people.
Great game.
Gamy greats.
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Check out the link.
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Do the search on Michael F Smith Jr. Asia and see what you get. His profile is much higher now. Still selling snake oil too.
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For some reason he doesn’t disclose his ownership of the Big Mango Bar brothel. Maybe he sold his interests.
This site is getting really sad! Someone got outed for the world to see at laugh at and now is trying to strike out like a little boy. The real damage has been done already….get over it!
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I hope I have a roustabout job soon. My zany experiences with the gay (faggot) Penfold, isn’t enough.
May I congratulate the owners of the bigdummykenny site. I think you have set a new record for visitors to your site – a mind numbing 2 this month
That includes me
Has anyone ever visited the Heidelberg bar?
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I wanna fuck Penfold’s Mom
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